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	<title>Comments on: Is Mexico Part of Central America?</title>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 19:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 
I was educated in Canada in the 60&#039;s. At that time we where taught that Mexico was indeed part of the continent of Central America, only since the Nafta agreement has Mexico been linked with North America. Britannica Atlas 1974 states that Mexico is Middle America (Central). I guess it depends when &amp; where you went to school. We are having this debate so it must have been taught at some time. To the person who tells people to forget history  If You (we) DO  It will only be repeated again
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I was educated in Canada in the 60&#8242;s. At that time we where taught that Mexico was indeed part of the continent of Central America, only since the Nafta agreement has Mexico been linked with North America. Britannica Atlas 1974 states that Mexico is Middle America (Central). I guess it depends when &amp; where you went to school. We are having this debate so it must have been taught at some time. To the person who tells people to forget history  If You (we) DO  It will only be repeated again<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Aida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 02:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mart thank you for your posting.  You did a wonderful job.  
Gracias!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mart thank you for your posting.  You did a wonderful job.<br />
Gracias!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: &quot;Brazilia Zurvaz&quot;
Are you kidding me!!! Your comment/idea/mentality has no foundation...
Mexico is not a &quot;puppet&quot; of U.S.
Let me explain something to you: Mexico, Canada, U.S among many other countries have the NAFTA-(North America), WTO-(World), FTAA-(Americas) Trades/Exportations, none-depend on the other, that is why all that exists.

&quot;Illegals&quot; are all over the world and from all over the world, and they migrate to find a JOB to EARN money and pay their bills, food, rent etc... and not depend on others.
&quot;Man&quot; has created laws in every country that have supposed to be respected but some of those laws are so strict that people can&#039;t be themselves or live comfortable, like DICTATORS in some countries; do you think is fair to someone to be treated like a slave???
People just try to SURVIVE but unfortunately there are peope-(criminals) that just distroy other people&#039;s life and future, and on the way they give to other people a bad image just by being from certain country. Not just by trying to survive means you are a criminal!.

&quot;Forget The Alamo, that is just History&quot;???
Tha is so stupid on your part, you need to analyze that, and realize that we all have history. Why forget something that you can learn from? that way we cat try to be better people and realize that we need each other in this planet, and not fight.
So try to forget your history and see what you can do without it!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: &#8220;Brazilia Zurvaz&#8221;<br />
Are you kidding me!!! Your comment/idea/mentality has no foundation&#8230;<br />
Mexico is not a &#8220;puppet&#8221; of U.S.<br />
Let me explain something to you: Mexico, Canada, U.S among many other countries have the NAFTA-(North America), WTO-(World), FTAA-(Americas) Trades/Exportations, none-depend on the other, that is why all that exists.</p>
<p>&#8220;Illegals&#8221; are all over the world and from all over the world, and they migrate to find a JOB to EARN money and pay their bills, food, rent etc&#8230; and not depend on others.<br />
&#8220;Man&#8221; has created laws in every country that have supposed to be respected but some of those laws are so strict that people can&#8217;t be themselves or live comfortable, like DICTATORS in some countries; do you think is fair to someone to be treated like a slave???<br />
People just try to SURVIVE but unfortunately there are peope-(criminals) that just distroy other people&#8217;s life and future, and on the way they give to other people a bad image just by being from certain country. Not just by trying to survive means you are a criminal!.</p>
<p>&#8220;Forget The Alamo, that is just History&#8221;???<br />
Tha is so stupid on your part, you need to analyze that, and realize that we all have history. Why forget something that you can learn from? that way we cat try to be better people and realize that we need each other in this planet, and not fight.<br />
So try to forget your history and see what you can do without it!.</p>
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		<title>By: Brazilia Zurvaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brazilia Zurvaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please Stop arguing, Mexico is an independent country from Central  America, and from the U.S.A.north America, geological, but not economically Mexico is totaly dependent on the U.S.A. forguet about THE ALAMO that is just history from hundredth years ago, U.S.A have their laws and Mexico is just a puppet of u.s.a. government, that simple. 15 millions of illegal and counting living in the U.S.A.
not paying not even for their rent, food,money,medical, don&#039;t  you think that&#039;s dependency from a country that is accused of been a thief 300 years ago???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please Stop arguing, Mexico is an independent country from Central  America, and from the U.S.A.north America, geological, but not economically Mexico is totaly dependent on the U.S.A. forguet about THE ALAMO that is just history from hundredth years ago, U.S.A have their laws and Mexico is just a puppet of u.s.a. government, that simple. 15 millions of illegal and counting living in the U.S.A.<br />
not paying not even for their rent, food,money,medical, don&#8217;t  you think that&#8217;s dependency from a country that is accused of been a thief 300 years ago???</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Mexico part of North America or Central America?  It is clear that there is an emotional connection for people (at least on this board) to the issue.  I personally, could care less but I do believe that the correct answer depends on which of the following dimensions of the question are in play:

1. Political - Mexico is clearly for political reasons included in the definition of &quot;North America&quot; in NAFTA.  However, the UN puts Mexico in Central America.  Paradoxically one could reasonably defer to the UN as a more objective authority and say Mexico is part of Central America as they state that their classification is &quot;apolitical&quot; and based on groupings determined for statistical convenience. Anti-immigration American politicians rarely refer to Mexico as being part of North America.

2. Geological - Geologically, Mexico, USA and Canada are all (largely) on the same North American geological plate.  There is no meaningful debate to be had here. Mexico by this definition is part of North America, end of story. (See: http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/astronomy/planets/earth/Continents.shtml)

3. Cultural - those who define North America as Canada and the USA only probably recognize that Canada and the USA are very similar culturally.  Not only do they share the same language (large French and Spanish speaking populations notwithstanding) but they also share much of the same cultural predispositions such as similarities in their traditional holidays like Thanksgiving, Memorial Day, Labour Day etc.  Mexico does not fit the bill culturally - at least, not yet.

4. Historical - if one accepts the European perspective as being the dominant perspective for so much of what people throughout the world have accepted &quot;as fact&quot; (e.g. ask most people &quot;Who discovered America?&quot; and you&#039;ll probably hear the answer &quot;Christopher Columbus&quot;) then historically, Europeans have included Mexico in Central America not North America.  I am unclear why this is the case, but I suspect that the historical classification is a cultural predisposition by European geographers, but I can&#039;t say that for sure.  By this measure, then you&#039;re pretty much stuck with Mexico not being part of North America. Clearly, these geographers came AFTER Mexico lost California.

5. Geographical - notwithstanding the fact that a significant part of Mexico lies north of some Texas border towns (e.g. Tijuana is further north than Brownsville), geographically, it is easy to see how Mexico can be lumped into Central America as enough of it can reasonably be construed to make up part of the isthmus that connects the two larger land masses of South America and the USA.  

I suspect that there are even more perspectives including anthropological, military etc.  Personally, I think that both positions have legitimacy, it all depends on the context.  So if someone asks me this question in future, then I&#039;ll retort: &quot;Do you mean politically, geologically, culturally, geographically or historically?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Mexico part of North America or Central America?  It is clear that there is an emotional connection for people (at least on this board) to the issue.  I personally, could care less but I do believe that the correct answer depends on which of the following dimensions of the question are in play:</p>
<p>1. Political &#8211; Mexico is clearly for political reasons included in the definition of &#8220;North America&#8221; in NAFTA.  However, the UN puts Mexico in Central America.  Paradoxically one could reasonably defer to the UN as a more objective authority and say Mexico is part of Central America as they state that their classification is &#8220;apolitical&#8221; and based on groupings determined for statistical convenience. Anti-immigration American politicians rarely refer to Mexico as being part of North America.</p>
<p>2. Geological &#8211; Geologically, Mexico, USA and Canada are all (largely) on the same North American geological plate.  There is no meaningful debate to be had here. Mexico by this definition is part of North America, end of story. (See: <a href="http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/astronomy/planets/earth/Continents.shtml)" rel="nofollow">http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/astronomy/planets/earth/Continents.shtml)</a></p>
<p>3. Cultural &#8211; those who define North America as Canada and the USA only probably recognize that Canada and the USA are very similar culturally.  Not only do they share the same language (large French and Spanish speaking populations notwithstanding) but they also share much of the same cultural predispositions such as similarities in their traditional holidays like Thanksgiving, Memorial Day, Labour Day etc.  Mexico does not fit the bill culturally &#8211; at least, not yet.</p>
<p>4. Historical &#8211; if one accepts the European perspective as being the dominant perspective for so much of what people throughout the world have accepted &#8220;as fact&#8221; (e.g. ask most people &#8220;Who discovered America?&#8221; and you&#8217;ll probably hear the answer &#8220;Christopher Columbus&#8221;) then historically, Europeans have included Mexico in Central America not North America.  I am unclear why this is the case, but I suspect that the historical classification is a cultural predisposition by European geographers, but I can&#8217;t say that for sure.  By this measure, then you&#8217;re pretty much stuck with Mexico not being part of North America. Clearly, these geographers came AFTER Mexico lost California.</p>
<p>5. Geographical &#8211; notwithstanding the fact that a significant part of Mexico lies north of some Texas border towns (e.g. Tijuana is further north than Brownsville), geographically, it is easy to see how Mexico can be lumped into Central America as enough of it can reasonably be construed to make up part of the isthmus that connects the two larger land masses of South America and the USA.  </p>
<p>I suspect that there are even more perspectives including anthropological, military etc.  Personally, I think that both positions have legitimacy, it all depends on the context.  So if someone asks me this question in future, then I&#8217;ll retort: &#8220;Do you mean politically, geologically, culturally, geographically or historically?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever though of labeling country lines... It should just be &quot;North and South&quot; that way it would&#039;ve been easier to define. But as far as I can remember in history, Mexico has always been a &quot;Northern&quot; country and not central. Also labeling people as &quot;Latin, Hispanic, white, black&quot; etc... Latin is/was a language and I do not speak it, so that makes me &quot;Latin&quot; even if I don&#039;t speak it? Same with english, french and other languages come from latin, why aren&#039;t they called latins too? But latin it&#039;s no longer spoken that I know of. I do believe I am part &quot;Spanish&quot; and part &quot;Native American&quot; because I have a spanish last name and American/Mexican last name, but not &quot;Indian&quot;. The people who was born in a certain continent should be &quot;Native&quot; not &quot;Indian&quot;. All that comes from the history of Christopher Columbus, he thought he had found &quot;India&quot; when he first set a foot on American Lands, when India is far from this lands. Indians are in the country of India not in American continent. All I know I am American and it doesn&#039;t matter what country I was born in, but as far as I know I was born in the American Continent. Most people in Europe, Asia, Australia etc... when America is mentioned, they think as U.S. When it really should be the whole continent and not just U.S. Mexico same as United States of America has a similar title &quot;United States of Mexico&quot; or &quot;Mexican United States&quot; and not just by mentioning America it has to be just Mexico, There are a lot more countries in America and not just U.S. Come one people...
Some people in the U.S. think New Mexico is a country, I couldn&#039;t believe it when I heard that. But whatever! I am human I am alive and I am here, and whatever is being spreaded out there it&#039;s all in their minds, that won&#039;t stop me from sleeping.
Every mind it&#039;s a world and every human has right to express it&#039;s thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever though of labeling country lines&#8230; It should just be &#8220;North and South&#8221; that way it would&#8217;ve been easier to define. But as far as I can remember in history, Mexico has always been a &#8220;Northern&#8221; country and not central. Also labeling people as &#8220;Latin, Hispanic, white, black&#8221; etc&#8230; Latin is/was a language and I do not speak it, so that makes me &#8220;Latin&#8221; even if I don&#8217;t speak it? Same with english, french and other languages come from latin, why aren&#8217;t they called latins too? But latin it&#8217;s no longer spoken that I know of. I do believe I am part &#8220;Spanish&#8221; and part &#8220;Native American&#8221; because I have a spanish last name and American/Mexican last name, but not &#8220;Indian&#8221;. The people who was born in a certain continent should be &#8220;Native&#8221; not &#8220;Indian&#8221;. All that comes from the history of Christopher Columbus, he thought he had found &#8220;India&#8221; when he first set a foot on American Lands, when India is far from this lands. Indians are in the country of India not in American continent. All I know I am American and it doesn&#8217;t matter what country I was born in, but as far as I know I was born in the American Continent. Most people in Europe, Asia, Australia etc&#8230; when America is mentioned, they think as U.S. When it really should be the whole continent and not just U.S. Mexico same as United States of America has a similar title &#8220;United States of Mexico&#8221; or &#8220;Mexican United States&#8221; and not just by mentioning America it has to be just Mexico, There are a lot more countries in America and not just U.S. Come one people&#8230;<br />
Some people in the U.S. think New Mexico is a country, I couldn&#8217;t believe it when I heard that. But whatever! I am human I am alive and I am here, and whatever is being spreaded out there it&#8217;s all in their minds, that won&#8217;t stop me from sleeping.<br />
Every mind it&#8217;s a world and every human has right to express it&#8217;s thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like someone said, &quot;it depends on who you ask&quot; - look at the country of Cyprus.   Cyprus has for many years been classified as part of the &quot;Middle East,&quot; as it is off the western coast of Lebanon and Syria, and south of Turkey; half of it is Turkish and belongs to Turkey. Still, although many Cypriots swear they are European (and it is now an EU member country), cross through Nicosia and find yourself right in the middle of a town scene that resembles just about anywhere in the middle east.  The question of where Mexico &quot;belongs&quot; is similar to Cyprus, and it involves culture as much as it does geography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like someone said, &#8220;it depends on who you ask&#8221; &#8211; look at the country of Cyprus.   Cyprus has for many years been classified as part of the &#8220;Middle East,&#8221; as it is off the western coast of Lebanon and Syria, and south of Turkey; half of it is Turkish and belongs to Turkey. Still, although many Cypriots swear they are European (and it is now an EU member country), cross through Nicosia and find yourself right in the middle of a town scene that resembles just about anywhere in the middle east.  The question of where Mexico &#8220;belongs&#8221; is similar to Cyprus, and it involves culture as much as it does geography.</p>
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		<title>By: Shay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Is this a joke? I&#039;m from MA and as far as I know we have one of if not the best school systems in the country. Now I&#039;m not saying I&#039;m one of the smartest people in the world but one of the few things I remember learning is the continents and if i remember correctly Central America is not a continent!!!!! So what is the debate about it seems very simple so me!!! Put culture aside put language aside and just look at the facts. Mexico is part of Central America that is true but Central America is largely a part of North America.Now I&#039;m not trying to take away from the Mexican culture I&#039;m not saying they are American I&#039;m saying that Mexico if a part of a continent. I&#039;m Cape Verdean which is a island off the west coast of Africa we have our own language and our own culture but I&#039;d be full of it if I said we didn&#039;t belong to the continent of Africa. IDK I&#039;m very sure someone will argue with this comment too! I guess that&#039;s the beautiful thing about living in &quot;North America&quot; is that you can have an opinion of about anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Is this a joke? I&#8217;m from MA and as far as I know we have one of if not the best school systems in the country. Now I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;m one of the smartest people in the world but one of the few things I remember learning is the continents and if i remember correctly Central America is not a continent!!!!! So what is the debate about it seems very simple so me!!! Put culture aside put language aside and just look at the facts. Mexico is part of Central America that is true but Central America is largely a part of North America.Now I&#8217;m not trying to take away from the Mexican culture I&#8217;m not saying they are American I&#8217;m saying that Mexico if a part of a continent. I&#8217;m Cape Verdean which is a island off the west coast of Africa we have our own language and our own culture but I&#8217;d be full of it if I said we didn&#8217;t belong to the continent of Africa. IDK I&#8217;m very sure someone will argue with this comment too! I guess that&#8217;s the beautiful thing about living in &#8220;North America&#8221; is that you can have an opinion of about anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on who you ask. If you ask someone supporting transnational corporte interests such as NAFTA, then Mexico is awkwardly stuffed into definitions of North America-Canada. Clearly, on its northern edge, Mexico falls into a geographic zone that is the southernmost delineation of North America, while Mexico southward leads into Central America. 

Consider pre-modern societies such as the Maya, whose cities were interconnected into one cultural sphere that spread from Cozumel, Central Mexico lowlands, into Veracruz, Honduras and Guatemala.  Culturally, Mexico still has much more in common with the Central American societies than it does with the cultural traditions, language and customs of North American USA and Canada. 

Without overstating the obvious, new patterns of immigration and demographic shifts are resulting in changing perceptions of such ambiguous regional zones. Not surprisingly, those who desire seeing the USA fuse inter-regionally with Mexico are re-drawing and re-defining such culture zones, and those who want Mexico to be in North America will support such changing definitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on who you ask. If you ask someone supporting transnational corporte interests such as NAFTA, then Mexico is awkwardly stuffed into definitions of North America-Canada. Clearly, on its northern edge, Mexico falls into a geographic zone that is the southernmost delineation of North America, while Mexico southward leads into Central America. </p>
<p>Consider pre-modern societies such as the Maya, whose cities were interconnected into one cultural sphere that spread from Cozumel, Central Mexico lowlands, into Veracruz, Honduras and Guatemala.  Culturally, Mexico still has much more in common with the Central American societies than it does with the cultural traditions, language and customs of North American USA and Canada. </p>
<p>Without overstating the obvious, new patterns of immigration and demographic shifts are resulting in changing perceptions of such ambiguous regional zones. Not surprisingly, those who desire seeing the USA fuse inter-regionally with Mexico are re-drawing and re-defining such culture zones, and those who want Mexico to be in North America will support such changing definitions.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its funny how people make a decisions based on the imaginary line in the dirt. For whatever reason, people are taught that Mexico is north america. &quot;Central America &quot; is also part of north america, for those of you making comments on mexico. Now  if you look in the center of the americas you will see all the countries from mexico to panama. Now just because mexico is labeled as north america so should central america.  The US and UN for either political reasons or economic reasons say mexico is n america. Yeah yeah yeah,  its all BS and the half of what the govt says is all lies too. Mexico should be labeled central america. Look up middle america and see what you get. MEXICO! (bingo) The last time I checked middle also means central. Its all a vicious cycle. Quit being sheep, and open your eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its funny how people make a decisions based on the imaginary line in the dirt. For whatever reason, people are taught that Mexico is north america. &#8220;Central America &#8221; is also part of north america, for those of you making comments on mexico. Now  if you look in the center of the americas you will see all the countries from mexico to panama. Now just because mexico is labeled as north america so should central america.  The US and UN for either political reasons or economic reasons say mexico is n america. Yeah yeah yeah,  its all BS and the half of what the govt says is all lies too. Mexico should be labeled central america. Look up middle america and see what you get. MEXICO! (bingo) The last time I checked middle also means central. Its all a vicious cycle. Quit being sheep, and open your eyes.</p>
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